Jehuty
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Post by Jehuty on Dec 4, 2004 17:13:40 GMT -5
Haha, actually it can, if Nintendo goes 3rd party.  Yeah...sometimes I wish everyone but one company would go 3rd party, it's a pain to want to play games on all 3 consoles and then to have to buy the seperate consoles  pretty unreasonable. |
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Post by gamefreaks365 on Dec 4, 2004 23:54:29 GMT -5
Well, this might be a GCN-friendly site, but I have to say it. I'd like to see Nintendo go 3rd party. I own every Nintendo system, except Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Virtual Boy, but I must say, it's time for them to step aside in the hardware business. Sony is clearly the favorite in the hardware realm.
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Post by Oscar-RN on Dec 5, 2004 0:10:02 GMT -5
Well, this might be a GCN-friendly site, but I have to say it. I'd like to see Nintendo go 3rd party. I own every Nintendo system, except Game Boy, Game Boy Color, and Virtual Boy, but I must say, it's time for them to step aside in the hardware business. Sony is clearly the favorite in the hardware realm. I would have to disagree. But lets remember everyone has their own opinions. Nintendo is owning the Portable gamespace, and with the REVOLUTION, who knows what can happen. |
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Post by gamefreaks365 on Dec 5, 2004 19:02:20 GMT -5
Oh, well I was referring to console hardware, not handheld. They are of course dominant in the handheld realm, and they should stick to that winning formula. The GCN, however, has not been a winning forumula. If Nintendo does not reach out to the American audience, they will not exist very much longer in the console business.
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Post by Jason-RN on Dec 5, 2004 21:48:02 GMT -5
Oh, well I was referring to console hardware, not handheld. They are of course dominant in the handheld realm, and they should stick to that winning formula. The GCN, however, has not been a winning forumula. If Nintendo does not reach out to the American audience, they will not exist very much longer in the console business. Sales are up, though. In the first few weeks of November, over 250,000 GameCubes were sold (source: Nintendo). |
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Post by gamefreaks365 on Dec 5, 2004 23:11:36 GMT -5
250,000 over a few week period, in the busiest season of the year is unspectacular. The PS2 managed over 1 million units during this period last year. While 250K isn't bad, by now, you'd think people would be buying more GCN's than PS2's, since everyone owns a PS2. That's still not happening, and until it does, Nintendo's deficit to the PS2 will continue to rise.
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Shiva64
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Post by Shiva64 on Dec 7, 2004 0:08:34 GMT -5
Defiently gonna have to agree. I love Nintendo.. I grew up with it since I was about 8yrs old. I got a SNES, then a Game Boy the next Xmas/birthday. And a few months after I got the SNES, I subscribed to Nintendo Power.. been a member ever since, minus a year because I misbehaved and couldn't get a whole year.. <<
So yeah.. I love Nintendo, but they do need to change things. They may be doing OK... and selling quite a few units during certain times of the year, but honestly, it's not gonna get them very far in the future. They need to go online. What's the point of having fun multiplayer games like Mario Kart: DD!!, FF: Crystal Chronicles, and whatever else game, if you can't even go online and compete with someone different, a new challenge? I mean, c'mon, not everyone has a friend or 2 that they can play with at home... Hell.. they need to do more. Yes.. innovation is good... but make it better with ONLINE PLAY! I would seriously love to play multiplayer someday, on a Nintendo console once I live on my own with some sort of broadband connection.
But until then.. Nintendo is just gonna keep losing money, and keep fighting for a placing in the console wars. They're already working on getting rid of the "kiddy" image, so why not work on the "I love online play" image?
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Post by lordxixor on Dec 7, 2004 8:01:01 GMT -5
Going online would be good. Some games (especially Mario Kart and FF CC) were truely made for online.
That being said, I can see why they aren't going online. 100,000 is a lot of people online at a time, but that isn't many sales as far as the Big N is concerned.
Honestly, it would be interesting to see what would happen if Nintendo went third party. Would SMS have sold 7 million units had it had the PS2's user base? That many on the Cube now would be very difficult to get, 1 out of every 2 cube owners would have to buy they game (and those sort of sales happen very rarely, and almost always at launch).
I think Nintendo hurts themselves sometimes. Not everyone has a GBA. In all honesty, I really don't need to play games on the road, so I don't have one. But, there are several games (FF CC, Animal Crossings, even the original Metroid in Metroid Prime) that you lose significant functionality without a GBA. Sure, linking the items could force me to get a GBA. but what its done is had me either avoid the games (FF CC) or be on the bitter side about paying my money, but not getting what I feel is the whole game.
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Shiva64
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Post by Shiva64 on Dec 7, 2004 9:34:02 GMT -5
If Nintendo ever went third party, I would seriously never buy another game ever again. It's people like you guys that say 3rd party is the way to go for them. They weren't like that in the first place, so why the hell should they change? They ain't like Sega. They went bankrupt pretty much, but I highly doubt Nintendo will ever become bankrupt. I would die if Nintendo went third party... without no new consoles or handhelds... I'd be dead... -_-
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Post by gamefreaks365 on Dec 7, 2004 13:07:49 GMT -5
I didn't advocate for them to 'go 3rd party'. They should stick to the handheld arena, while taking their console games 3rd party. I have a quick comment on this though:
Do you know how many sales Nintendo has lost because they are too stubborn to allow for online play? Heck, most of the games on PS2 that are online come from 3rd parties, that pay for their own servers. Why didn't Nintendo encourage those same companies (i.e. Ubi Soft w/ Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow) to make online game modes for the GCN? It has nothing to do with profits, just Nintendo's unwillingness to change.
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Post by benwayshouse on Dec 7, 2004 18:37:58 GMT -5
Well, I don't want Nintendo to leave teh business for good, but they are eventually going to crash and lose alot of money. While I don't really want GameCube to fall, it would be smart for the company to sell themselves off to Sony or Microsoft and become a 2nd Party developer. If they were to get bought by Microsoft(and we all know the joke everyone took seriously this Summer), they could co-develop with Rare, the legendary developer Nintendo sold due to stupidity(really, Rare was one of Nintendo's best friends, and we only get GBA games from them now. And, while Star Fox Adventures was pretty cool, that one game couldn't satisfy my need of Rare games. I wish I could get a Banjo-Kazooie Three on the 'Cube v_v).
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Jason-RN
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Post by Jason-RN on Dec 7, 2004 18:45:04 GMT -5
Do you know how many sales Nintendo has lost because they are too stubborn to allow for online play? Heck, most of the games on PS2 that are online come from 3rd parties, that pay for their own servers. Why didn't Nintendo encourage those same companies (i.e. Ubi Soft w/ Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow) to make online game modes for the GCN? It has nothing to do with profits, just Nintendo's unwillingness to change. I seriously doubt that Nintendo's online stance is affecting GCN sales by a lot. Most people buy a 'Cube for the games. While an online mode in F-Zero GX, for example, would be a lot of fun, the lack of it doesn't make F-Zero GX a bad game. As for encouraging third-party companies to go online: I agree that Nintendo could do more. The current stance of Nintendo is, "they can go online if they want to." Nintendo should help third-parties go online, instead of forcing them to handle it on their own. |
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Post by gamefreaks365 on Dec 7, 2004 23:47:05 GMT -5
Nintendo would go 3rd party before they allowed their rivals to buy them. Rare's an over-rated developer. Aside from GoldenEye, Banjo-Kazooie, and for some, Perfect Dark, they made nothing but collect-a-thon games (i.e. Donkey Kong 64, Star Fox Adventures, etc.). If I thought F-Zero GX was a bad game, I wouldn't have given it a 9.8 out of 10. There probably wouldn't have been enough people to play online for that though, as I don't remember the sales being that great. It sucks when you get a game to go online, like Killzone, for instance, but no one plays.  |
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Post by Jason-RN on Dec 8, 2004 0:57:44 GMT -5
If I thought F-Zero GX was a bad game, I wouldn't have given it a 9.8 out of 10. There probably wouldn't have been enough people to play online for that though, as I don't remember the sales being that great. It sucks when you get a game to go online, like Killzone, for instance, but no one plays. Yeah, playing an online mode without anyone online isn't very fun.  |
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Post by 2quik2silver on May 24, 2005 17:29:21 GMT -5
This is going to screw Nintendo over. RE4 is what's keeping the FPS lovers tied to Nintendo.
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